Saturday, March 15, 2014

Fighting A Spanking? - Updated

** The update is the last two paragraphs at the bottom. :)

The Duke announced a spanking today. A maintenance one. For about a week and a half we've been sick, though not together, mind you, he had been sick and then I got it. So our twice weekly maintenance got skipped twice. The Duke also stepped back from being an HoH a bit. Not completely, but enough that I was starting to feel a bit adrift last night. I guess it showed, because the Duke said today, me having a cold or not, I was going to be spanked to help settle me.

I won't lie, I DIDN'T WANT ONE. I am so busy today, and didn't even mean to blog, but feel I have to get all these things out.

I admitted to him, respectfully, that I would rather not have one. I had a cake to bake for a party tonight, and I wasn't in the mood. He told me I could put my cake in the oven, but I WAS getting the spanking. So he he got the pan out for me, greased and floured it via my instructions. Then gave me a few minutes to finish up. I went to the bedroom, I didn't want to. But I went.

I climbed over his lap, getting a bit cheeky and saying I was going over without complaint, but I protested to doing so. ;) He said that was okay, as long as I obeyed.

Now, before we talk about fighting a spanking, I want to make sure everyone who reads this understands first. In Domestic Discipline, it only works if it is something BOTH people want. If one is against being spanked, and does not agree to Domestic Discipline, and is still spanked, that is abuse. Plain and Simple. In this post, we talk about two consenting adults, where in their marriage they decide one person needs to step up and be the leader to help end chaos, or make their marriage stronger. Spanking is often used as a tool to help enforce this authority, and both partners agree, willingly, to this.

So, my spanking this morning, and my want at first to fight it, has me thinking. I hope none of this comes across as judgemental, because my want here really is to help. But I've been thinking about some women who say it is their right to fight a spanking if they feel it is unfair, or if they don't want one, or if they're not in the mood, or if their HoH hasn't been consistent lately. I get all of those. I really do.

But there is a question we have to sit down and ask ourselves. - What do we really want in this dynamic? Being a submissive means giving up the right to have things our way every time. There are going to be times we have to do things we don't want to do. There are going to be times we want to fight and complain, but need to give in, and realize that following our husbands is better.

There is something that needs to be considered when you want to fight a spanking. A few things actually.

I won't make this too long, I promise. :)

When we fight a spanking, we first of all tell our husbands that we don't trust their judgement.  We say we don't trust them to do what is right.  We don't trust them to do what he feels/thinks is best.  We don't trust them to know when to stop. In doing so, we undermind their confidence and their leadership. They're human, they will make mistakes. But be honest, which would you rather? Him always questioning to death every spanking first, and therefore be wrong and not spank you when you definitely need it a lot of the times, or have him be confident, still wrong once in a while but this time spank you from time to time when you don't need it? Sadly, that may be your choice. I chose the second. I want my husband to be confident, if that means a few spankings I don't need or deserve, so be it. I'll get over it. :)  That's much better to me than having a husband that is so afraid of making a mistake he never reacts.  I want to build him up, he is so beautiful when he is confident. - and I am so ashamed when I shake that in him.

Another thing is that when we refuse a spanking, we are refusing their authority. We're going against the very foundation we wished to build. Brick by brick, each fight tears down that fortress we have built together. When we fight, we're trying to keep, or take back, the very control we told them we wanted to hand over. Most of us women went to our husbands and asked for this lifestyle, some even had to right out beg. Yet, at the mention of a spanking, the fighting starts? Our actions can't go against our words. If they do, no wonder so many of our men are confused. To them, if we really wanted this lifestyle, we wouldn't put them into a position where they had to force us to accept something they're already struggling to give us, especially at the first.

I don't fight a spanking now, or I really try hard not to, I'll have to ask the Duke if I've done any fighting lately, and if I have, if I've gotten any better at not fighting. But my heart is in a place now to accept. Is it always easy? No, times like today it was the last thing I wanted to be doing. But we needed it. I needed to more submissive again, and he needed to start flexing his dom muscles again after this week of being sick. Spanking brings us closer. I choose to let it be a time I show my respect to him and his authority. I chose a while ago that I was going to stop tearing the Duke down with my fighting, and start building him up.

Maybe next time, if you struggle with fighting, you can give it a try, see what happens if you go over his lap, or over the bed, willingly. :)  The results might just surprise you. :)

Anyway, all this is going through my head today, and I just felt I had to share it. The last advice post I gave turned out to be very loved, so hopefully I did not go too far in this one either.

- The Duke's Deductions:

Hi Guys,
I am really proud of EsMay for being able to admit this, and being able to understand this. I definitely notice that she has gotten a lot better at taking spankings when I can tell she does not want to. She is lot more willing now than she used to be, and not fighting against it as much when I tell her that I feel it is time for a spanking.
The DD dynamic can be a tricky one to navigate sometimes. As EsMay mentioned, this is consensual. This is something both parties agree to and want. This is not something the HoH forces on their partner, I feel that would be abuse if it was not agreed to. Now, because of that it can sometimes be difficult to judge if EsMay is just fighting a spanking because she just doesn't like the pain of a spanking, or if she is doing it because she feels I am being abusive in some way. Also, at times like this when I have been sick or there have been other life events getting in the way and I have missed spanking for a week or two, if EsMay tells me that I have been inconsistent or have not been fair, it can really sting. That it turn can make me lose confidence in myself as an HoH. However, as you can see, if I had been consistent all along, if I had made DD a priority over other concerns, than this would be less of a problem in the first place. However, it does come down to both partners being willing to take their role, even if they may not necessarily feel like it at the time. The Husband needs to realize they have to be firm, be consistent, and not allow the wife to get away with things. The wife on the other hand also needs to be submissive, to be willing to accept punishments, to treat their HoH with respect and not talk back.  Anyway, thank you EsMay for writing on such an interesting topic.

 ** EsMay again - just a p.s. to this post.  I realized in the comments I may not have been quite clear.  I don't mean not to put a stop if the spanking shouldn't happen now.  There are many reasons I spanking just cannot happen at the moment.  Unnatural fear, HoH out of control with anger, or out of control for any reason, children are about, and so on.  The HoH might want to spank, but you're seeing a reason it really needs to wait.  That does happen for us too. 

In this post we are talking about fighting a spanking just because you don't want to happen, for reasons like, it will hurt, or you don't want to be punished even when you know you should be, and things like that.  I'll write a more clarifying post tomorrow as it's well after midnight and I'm tired.  But I do definitely see the need to stop a spanking at times, but this is not what this post was about.  Sorry about the confusion. 

38 comments:

  1. I wish I could comment on this from first hand experience - but we don't do any real discipline. I've gone over it in my mind so much as I write Cassie I do have her opinion to share. As she once explained it she has consented to spanking in the marriage and understands her husband is the leader of the family. That does' t mean she doesn't nearly always try to talk her way out of it at any given spanking. But physically fight him, completely refuse - it's only happened on extremely rare occasions. When it has happened her reasons have been more than valid and he agreed. I hope you don't mind me answering this way. I'm so envious of those of you in a true dd marriage I sometimes what to jump in. This is a great post.

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    1. PK, I don't mind you answering this way at all. :) I have learned... I write just for fun, that we can get so into a character, that we actually think and feel like they do a times. Later on if something similar happens to me in real life, I find that a lot of what I thought about the situation really is true. So your points are very valid and very well thought out, actually. :)

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  2. I think it is not that simple. There are times when a woman can and SHOULD discuss a spanking and its merits with her husband. I am not saying fight it every time. I do know there are plenty of times when a woman has a valid reason why they should not be spanked. I shall give you an example from our own house. Several months ago Barney and I were not in a rough spot, I was slightly distant but other than that thinks were fine. Before r/a we always have a conversation, that is our way. Anyway the conversation became heated and my feelings were hurt. At that point he decided he wanted to do r/a. I refused ( yes everyone gasp). I know me. I have an extremely high tolerance to pain on a good day, and if I am angry, he can wail away until the cows come home NOTHING will be accomplished0except for frustration on both or parts and perhaps injury. The clock was ticking and our son would have been home for lunch soon if we didn''t start.
    Naturally at the time because I was angry and only could manage a "NO" Barney was furious. Eventually we talked it out. And r/a was rescheduled. But I think there are plenty of times where a woman can voice her opinion about the spanking. Being submissive does not mean being silent. At least not here or with the majority of the women I know.
    Again, I am not saying, you broke a rule and now you are trying to talk your way out of it. I am saying if you are not ready, if you are not feeling well, if you feel your husband is too angry, if your mind is distracted..if you need to TALK first. There are a multitude of reasons, that are genuine and sincere reasons for taking a step back.

    I am all for building up my husband, and Lord knows when we first started ttwd back in 2012 there were times during an argument I said no when I shouldn't have.And at the time it probably might have affected Barney, but here we are today no worse for wear. I just don't think it helps to say 'we' should always say yes, or it will be detrimental to 'our men'. Sometimes conversation is what is needed first, and sometimes those conversations start because someone said 'no'.

    love
    willie

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    1. I hope by now, with all that I write about, anyone that reads would definitely know that i never expect or would think that a woman should be silent. We have our opinions, and DD allows us to share them. The husband may not always agree with the reasons, and still continue on with the spanking. It has happened here in our home, and on many blogs, and we all get through it. And I do agree, there are times it needs to stop, but that is not what this post was about. This post was about fighting a punishment just to fight a punishment. Sorry for the confusion.

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  3. I hope that both of you know how much you are helping many couples in blog land. You write about real situations that happen to everyone....and you offer much to think about.
    hugs abby

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    1. Thank you, abby, your words really do touch my heart. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  4. hmmm... i don't know how i feel about this post, but i'm glad you're in a good place. i do agree with willie though, because there have been many times when i wasn't 'ready' and we waited a day or two and i was in a MUCH better head-space. i also think when you wait a little bit, if ONE person isn't exactly "READY," then you end up with a more honest relationship where you're both willing to give the other person some room. i also don't think that this should be abused. by that i mean, you can't call wolf any ol' time you want. i think when you HONESTLY say "i need a bit of space" then the mate KNOWS you are serious and space is absolutely NEEDED. it's in those times where i think being an HOH is really admired because he's listening to your needs and allowing you to submit when you are READY.

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    1. Yes, there are times a spanking needs to be held off, and we need to be able to say so and have them take us seriously. And calling wolf when it doesn't need to be held off does make them less likely to believe us when we truly need the break.

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  5. EsMay, when you wrote that you’d go over the Duke’s lap, but under protest, I had to giggle, because that was cute. But nevertheless, I think that you made your point with that, too and I am sorry that you had these troubles with maintenance.
    I can only agree with you and rather have one spanking too many as the result of some mistake of hubby’s, than none at all. I also think that fighting a spanking actively is acting against the authority that we crave so much. You mentioned the confusion that can result from this kind of fighting and I completely agree with you on that. The effect of that could be rather devastating for the relationship, I think and even if we don’t always like when a spanking is announced, we should actually be kind of glad when our HoHs do what we expect them to do, what we want them to do in general. I think that this acceptance of discipline from the HoH is a very responsible way of dealing with problems that exist. And accepting discipline is also a way of showing trust in the judgment and ability of our HoHs.
    Still, there are maybe some reasons when it is better to talk first or even postpone spankings. If I object, hubby listens first, then decides. He himself has postponed spankings just because he was not as balanced as he wants to be when spanking. But none of this is actually active resistance. It is communication between two consenting adults.
    What both of you do, is communicate how you feel about discipline, which definitely shows how consensual DD is for you and to see that at work is something I always enjoy so much. I can understand that it is very difficult in some moments to spank, when there was resistance, because this spectre of abuse haunts many HoH. It is a difficult topic that I think almost any DD blog has discussed in blogland.
    I don’t think that your advice went too far. I for one loved it a lot and my awareness of the benefits of physical punishment has grown immensely lately, because I am not going to have that till it is winter again. The non-physical ways of discipline also serve their purpose, but they don’t give me this ‘let go’ experience that I need. So, reading your point of view created a long sigh of pleasure in me :)
    hugs
    Nina

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    1. I am glad that it gave you a sigh of pleasure. :) I definitely agree there are times when a talk and a cool down are needed before a spanking. We had one of those not too many months ago where the Duke was quite upset, and I asked him to wait until he was sure he was under control. There are definitely times to wait, but I'm glad you see that I meant more along the lines of testing their authority and such. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  6. EsMay

    This is another great post and one I think many of us can identify with.
    There are times when it is really difficult to submit. For me, I think if
    I just don't want to do it but have no valid reason then I should still submit.
    But, if there are hurt feelings I need to be able to discuss this with SM
    before we go further. After talking he may decide not to spank if he feels
    it would be detrimental more so than helpful. Yes we need to obey but
    we do have feelings which need to be considered too. I don't know if there
    is a right or wrong answer for this but the HoH and submissive should
    work together to a conclusion that is best for them.

    You and the Duke seem very in tune to each other and I see so many
    positive changes in your dynamic. Thank you so much for sharing
    your life with us.

    love
    sara

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    1. I love how you put it, "the HoH and submissive should work together to a conclusion that is best for them". SO very perfect. And just how we feel. :)

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  7. What timing EsMay and Duke. Both of you addressed this issue so well, and it provided me with much insight and something to think about. Thank you both for sharing.

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    1. I am glad it was able to give you something to ponder. :)

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  8. This is a great post EsMay and Duke! I liked how you touched on what abuse would look like. I would imagine that the blogs draw all kinds of readers and on occasion, info like that could be very important to someone in a bad situation.

    So far, I tend to just go to Rob when I have spankings. I can't really think of a time to date when I have not. I do understand what others are saying though- about the fact that there could be some occasions where a spanking needs to be postponed or aborted due to various situations- feeling ill, the HoH completely getting things wrong (perhaps blaming for something that simply did not happen), a loss of control on either side, etc. If the situation presented itself as one where I felt the need to put the brakes on a pending spanking, there would be a VERY good reason why, since it is not the norm. So I am sure that Rob would stop and we would discuss. I think that those are the situations that people above are talking about. In those cases, communication is essential before any spanking gets doled out.

    Great post for great thought! Thank you both. Many hugs,

    <3 Katie

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    1. Thank you, Katie, I worried the title might draw a different crowd when being searched, so wanted to clarify before continuing. And I am the same, I would only put a stop to a spanking if there was a very good reason for my needing to do so. Then we would talk, and he wold decide from there what wold happen. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  9. I trust the Man to know when I need to be spanked. WE have the dynamic due to PTSD issues that if I am feeling afraid, or anxious, I am able to tell him so, and he holds me and settles me before he spanks me. However, I agree, that there are times that I know I need a spanking and I don't want one, that I choose to submit, and it's all the sweeter to him as he knows it is an act of love on my part.

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    1. I love that! :) He knows it's an act of love on your part. :) Beautiful. Struggling with PTSD myself, I totally get what you mean about a spanking needing to work around that, and I love reading when you talk about how the Man really understands that in your posts. {{{hugs}}}

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  10. EsMay,
    Even though I'm not dd, I LOVED what you wrote. Our submission and our willingness to show our husbands that we trust them is imperative. And I believe they truly do not want to make a mistake, so they are very very cautious.

    I'm so happy for you and the Duke - getting to this place and doing it together. :)
    hugs,
    Cali

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    1. Thank you, Cali. I hope and pray we keep growing and ending up in new, beautiful, places. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  11. Es May,
    I really liked your post. Submission is hard sometimes, but you do it so well. Thank you for sharing.
    Meredith

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    1. Thank you, Meredith. It isn't always easy, and at times I really do struggle, but I always keep trying.

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  12. Hi Es May,
    I think for some women who know they tend to be manipulative, to say no would be something they would really need to think about. It could get old if they found they were sending mixed messages. I understand your point about fighting something that you have asked for but here, we have found that there are times when it is more complicated. For me, when I say no it is for a good reason--I am not ready in some way. We may make the odd mistake when we say no but I think we need to trust ourselves as much as we trust our husbands. If it truly doesn't feel right or if we know we cannot accept it...there are lots of different reasons...then I think a well thought out "not right now" can be a wise decision. I have said no a couple times that I can remember--once b/c I was too worked up, twice b/c MM was too upset and we really needed to talk first. For me, this enters a grey area where I have to know that I am not being controlling but am calling out a time out. It may sound backwards, but having the ability to say no has at times been a way of showing my husband respect and we have always grown from these times. Generally speaking, there will still be a spanking, but after some good discussion and whatever time we need to figure out together what is going on. Hope that makes some sense.

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    1. I do agree with what you said here. If we're too worked up, taking a spanking can be detrimental, and if he's too upset, we need to know he is in control. The same happens here, generally speaking, after a talk, or a cooling down period, there is still a spanking. I guess I meant in the post above is when people fight a spanking just to take back control, or avoiding what they know should happen. I completely agree there are times when a spanking does need to be haulted. :)

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  13. Hi Es May and Duke, this is a good post and you raise a really good issue. I have only scanned the above comments so please forgive me if I repeat.

    I agree with some of the other comments that there at times when it is valid to say no to a spanking if and it very much depends on the circumstances. If we need space to get into the right head space or know it is simply not something we can submit to at that moment. This is where the HoH needs to listen and truly hear his wife and communication is paramount.

    There is a world of difference between truly saying no and protesting a spanking. Protesting is something I do regularly with R/A spankings. I don't 'want' it, yet I want the connection it brings and the after affects of it.

    Our guys must have a hard time figuring us out. We want this dynamic. In fact, many of us asked for it, yet when it comes to spanking we protest. I think it's a natural reaction. After all ... it hurts!

    Hugs,
    Roz

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    1. Yes, sadly, it does hurt. lol And I do find the different between protesting and saying no to be one we have. I protest that spanking at times, even while crawling over his lap. LOL Though, I do realize the bond that is created there, and am thankful for it afterwards. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  14. Hey EsMay and Duke...you two wrote an excellent post here with a lot to think about. I agree that when you begin DD, the decision as to when and where spankings are given as well as implements, severity, etc. belong to the HoH. There are rare times that I feel it is appropriate to refuse or at least delay a spanking...for example, if either one of the parties are out of control angry, then spanking is not appropriate at that time.

    Ya know, Stormy wrote one time about the 15 minute rule that she and Ogre have...if after he tells her she is getting a spanking and why, if she doesn't feel she is in the right frame of mind or if she feels he is too angry, she can call for the 15 minute "cool off". I think this is an excellent idea as sometimes it is needed...if it was me, I would probably need more than 15 minutes if I was that angry. This would probably be one of those things that would vary from couple to couple but would be a good thing to discuss and implement.

    Gotta say, it is awesome to see how you two are growing by leaps and bounds!

    Hugs and Blessings...
    Cat

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    1. I like that 15 minute rule, and now that you say it, I do remember he talking about it in the past, though I had not remembered it when I wrote this post. It is a good rule to have. I agree that a spanking should not be done if either party is completely out of control.

      And thank you for the compliment... you keep making me blush, glad I get to hide behind this computer screen. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  15. Thank you EsMay and Duke for a thought provoking topic. After reading the comments above, I have to tell you how happy I am to be part of a group of such thoughtful and intelligent women. As you said in your update, there are absolutely valid reasons to postpone or further discuss a spanking before proceeding. Each of us individually and as couples must constitute what "valid" is in this situation, and I'm sure those answers are as unique as all of us :-) As for your original post, I believe as you do. When we need or deserve a spanking and we fight it (and I think there are lots of ways to do that!) then we are undermining the authority that we have given to our loving men. Just knowing that should be enough to make us stop doing it, right? That's what I think when I am rationally reading or writing or talking about submission. But sometimes in the heat of the moment, I must admit, I become a mercurial ball of emotions that has a very hard time finding words to express how I'm feeling. It seems like suddenly I've forgotten how to speak English and the words won't come to me. Once, instead of saying "I really don't want this and I'm not in the mood, can we start slow or do it later?" I actually tried to run away mid spanking! I was caught within seconds and then maintenance turned into punishment :-( So in theory, Ialways wwant to submit no matter what, and I am getting better at it. But I sometimes have a hard time in the moment. I drag my feet, try to cover my bum with my shirt, beg for mercy, have a hard time staying still. Not all the time, but more often than I think it's really acceptable. Do you have any ideas on how to help myself remember, even "in the moment" that resisting is a sign that I actually need what I'm about to receive? I always eventually accept whatever Ash dishes out because when it comes down to it I trust he knows what I need, but I feel like it would be a blessing to him if I could learn to be more compliant when I am feeling anything but.
    Love river

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    1. You know, River, I am not sure I have any advice for you, but maybe for him.... if he is open to it... well, this is what worked for us anyway, I am not sure it would work for anyone else... I tended, okay, still do at times, ;) tend to struggle with a spanking the same way, it is hard to take, if it gets really intense, I try to either move my bottom out of the way, kick my feet in to cover, or try to find a blanket or put my hands over to protect myself. Now, this is not often, but when it happens, I can't seem to take the spanking, no matter how hard I try. So the Duke has started telling me things like "I need you to submit right now", "I want you to let go and trust me right now", or "You're okay, you can do this". And those really help. If he catches me just starting to struggle, before I'm full out panicking, he'll say something like "You're doing so well, I'm so proud of you for taking this spanking". Those really get my frame of mind off the pain, and being able to focus on the problem at hand. Like I said, not sure these would help you, but when we realized how they helped me, we sat down and talked about them, and he keeps them in mind now. :)

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    2. Thank you, have to talk with him about this :-)

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  16. EsMay, your beautiful submissive heart continues to shine. I couldn't agree more with the sentiments expressed in your post. And I'm not sure I understand what the confusion is.

    Most of us have brought this to our husbands and asked them for accountability. This of course assumes, as Duke says, that he is serving the marriage with a heart for building the relationship and the consistency that we all crave. When we refuse to allow them to lead, we do undermine not only their authority, and the dynamic we requested, but we undermine ourselves, and the union we create with our husbands.

    I don't see anywhere that you have stated that communicating that either party needs a moment to come to it in a spirit that feeds the relationship is not permitted or welcome. You are simply saying that when he decides it is needed, when both parties are where they need to be, it will happen, and that trying to fight, manipulate or guilt your HoH out of it is harmful to what we are trying to achieve.

    It also serves us to remember that as our HoH, he really needs no reason, and we are always called to submit to his leadership.

    And I agree with Cat, it is wonderful to see you two blossoming so beautifully. It is always uplifting to read here, and to see what beautiful things happen with trust, consistency, a heart for service to our partners and our marriage, humility and grace. Thank you both for sharing your journey.

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    1. June, your words really blessed me, thank you. And thank you for seeing the spirit in which I wrote this post. I really did write it because I'm working on ways to make sure I don't hurt the Duke, I don't tear him down. And as you said, working on making sure I submit to his leadership. Thank you for supporting us, and being there for me. {{{hugs}}}

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  17. I'm behind on blogs and just read this post after the next post of yours! I completely understand! Sadly I am so guilty of this, which is probably one of the main reasons we are still struggling to both embrace our rolls.
    This post was great, thank you so much for sharing. I've already had this talk to some degree with myself and have been working on just letting myself submit. Reading this helps, it helps to know you aren't alone with things. Thank you both so much for sharing!
    ~Olive

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    1. Olive, I really don't know many couples that did not struggle with this in the beginning, if I know any at all. It is hard, but it can be worked on, and both people can grow. :) And you are so definitely not alone. :)

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  18. OK - I have to chime in - even though I'm way late! Here are my thoughts, for what they are worth.
    Yes we are submissive but we have a voice. However, we also agree to hand the reigns to our husbands to lead us. He cannot lead us if we constantly fight him. Personally, we (He-Man and I) LOVE the 15 minute rule. If the wife doesn't agree with any form of spanking doesn't mean the spanking should be put off for days and days. HOH said spanking today, then find a way to wrap your head around it. He can tell you're in need of a spanking - that's probably why you're fighting it. So take the 15 minutes (or whatever) wrap your head around and it let go. Let the spanking do what it's supposed to do. Submit to it.
    In Willie's case - she is stubborn. Barney could beat her till the cows come home and it wouldn't do any good because nothing in the 15 minutes could wrap her head around it. But I kinda don't think that is you, EsMay. And it doesn't matter. That point is, the HOH knows his wife. He knows if it is possible for the 15 minute (or 30 minute or 2 hours or whatever) rule to work or not. Find a "rule" that will work best and go with that.
    Great post - a lot of really great thoughts. Thanks for sharing!

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    1. lol Sarah!
      I think we can all see the difference between EsMay's voice and Willie's voice!

      But as we are all here to help and support each other in becoming better submissive wives, I think it's important to NOT mis-interpret what each other's posts are saying personally about our struggles, growth, and epiphanies.

      There is no abuse of power going on here - it's evident by even just reading any ONE post here. EsMay & the Duke are a sweet couple, devoted to each other and desiring a better marriage through the tools of dd.

      We are all a bit different in our dd or ttwd or whatever - but we are not here to judge - and if we were, there are many other ladies in blogland that I'd be more concerned about rather than EsMay.

      But again, we are all in relationships that we've CHOSEN - and we've chosen to share in order to encourage others, not to cause any harm. And I can think of no one more cautious about doing no harm than my friend EsMay.♥

      hugs!

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    2. Thank you, Sarah, I have to admit, if I made the Duke wait for days on a spanking so that I could get my head into the right frame of mind, I know that I would be the one controlling things in that moment. I would be manipulating the Duke to do things my way, not his. Things like ptsd and health, I can understand things like that needing to wait, but waiting days to calm down, or get into a submissive mind set... well I can't imagine. I did give the Duke the right to make these decisions, that is part of our deal. He does know when I need a spanking. He's never once been wrong. I have agreed to trust him, even when it's not always easy. Yes, there were two times I had a migraine and I could NOT have handled the spanking, and he was very good about listening, and postponing until I could even walk around the apartment without falling over. But other than that, I really try to submit, that is what I promised to do. :) Thank you for sharing, Sarah, and elaborating more on the 15 minute rule, that is a good one. :)

      And Cali, thank you for thinking so well of me. I am honoured, and humbled, and just, so thankful. I really do want to avoid harming people, but I guess when you speak from your heart, that is bound to happen. I hate that that is true, but to be honest, some of the hurts I've gotten from others words helped me make very positive changes because those words told me things I hadn't seen before. So if my words do ever hurt, I hope it's only to help.

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